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Friday, August 12, 2011

Smart skin: Electronics that stick and stretch like a temporary tattoo (w/ video)

From: http://www.physorg.com/

Smart skin: Electronics that stick and stretch like a temporary tattoo

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An ultrathin, electronic patch with the mechanics of skin, applied to the wrist for EMG and other measurements. Photo courtesy John Rogers





Engineers have developed a device platform that combines electronic components for sensing, medical diagnostics, communications and human-machine interfaces, all on an ultrathin skin-like patch that mounts directly onto the skin with the ease, flexibility and comfort of a temporary tattoo.

Led by researcher John A. Rogers, the Lee J. Flory-Founder professor of engineering at the University of Illinois, the researchers described their novel skin-mounted electronics in the Aug. 12 issue of the journal Science.

The circuit bends, wrinkles, and stretches with the of skin. The researchers demonstrated their concept through a diverse array of electronic components mounted on a thin, rubbery substrate, including sensors, LEDs, transistors, capacitors, wireless antennas, and conductive coils and for power.

"We threw everything in our bag of tricks onto that platform, and then added a few other new ideas on top of those, to show that we could make it work," said Rogers, a professor of materials science and engineering, of chemistry, of mechanical science and engineering, of bioengineering and of electrical and computer engineering. He also is affiliated with the Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology, and with the Frederick Seitz Laboratory at U. of I.



A new form of electronics, small enough to fit under a temporary tattoo, changes the way scientists think about gathering data from the human body. Credit: University of Illinois

The patches are initially mounted on a of water-soluble plastic, then laminated to the skin with water – just like applying a temporary tattoo. Alternately, the can be applied directly to a temporary tattoo itself, providing concealment for the electronics.

"We think this could be an important conceptual advance in wearable electronics, to achieve something that is almost unnoticeable to the wearer," said U. of I. electrical and computer engineering professor Todd Coleman, who co-led the multi-disciplinary team. "The technology can connect you to the physical world and the cyberworld in a very natural way that feels very comfortable."

Skin-mounted electronics have many biomedical applications, including EEG and EMG sensors to monitor nerve and muscle activity.

One major advantage of skin-like circuits is that they don't require conductive gel, tape, skin-penetrating pins or bulky wires, which can be uncomfortable for the user and limit coupling efficiency. They are much more comfortable and less cumbersome than traditional electrodes and give the wearers complete freedom of movement.

"If we want to understand brain function in a natural environment, that's completely incompatible with EEG studies in a laboratory," said Coleman, now a professor at the University of California at San Diego. "The best way to do this is to record neural signals in natural settings, with devices that are invisible to the user."

Monitoring in a natural environment during normal activity is especially beneficial for continuous monitoring of health and wellness, cognitive state or behavioral patterns during sleep.

In addition to gathering data, skin-mounted electronics could provide the wearers with added capabilities. For example, patients with muscular or neurological disorders, such as ALS, could use them to communicate or to interface with computers. The researchers found that, when applied to the skin of the throat, the sensors could distinguish muscle movement for simple speech. The researchers have even used the electronic patches to control a video game, demonstrating the potential for human-computer interfacing.

Smart skin: Electronics that stick and stretch like a temporary tattoo

The circuits’ filamentary serpentine shape allows them to bend, twist, scrunch and stretch while maintaining functionality. Photo courtesy John Rogers

Rogers' group is well known for its innovative stretchable, flexible devices, but creating devices that could comfortably contort with the skin required a new fabrication paradigm.

"Our previous stretchable electronic devices are not well-matched to the mechanophysiology of the skin," Rogers said. "In particular, the skin is extremely soft, by comparison, and its surface can be rough, with significant microscopic texture. These features demanded different kinds of approaches and design principles."

Rogers collaborated with Northwestern University engineering professor Yonggang Huang and his group to tackle the difficult mechanics and materials questions. The team developed a device geometry they call filamentary serpentine, in which the circuits for the various devices are fabricated as tiny, squiggled wires. When mounted on thin, soft rubber sheets, the wavy, snakelike shape allows them to bend, twist, scrunch and stretch while maintaining functionality.

"The blurring of electronics and biology is really the key point here," Huang said. "All established forms of electronics are hard, rigid. Biology is soft, elastic. It's two different worlds. This is a way to truly integrate them."



Video: "Temporary Tatoo With Integrated Electronics"



The video describes the new epidermal electronics system and shows how it is applied to the skin. Credit: J. Rogers, University of Illinois


The researchers used simple adaptations of techniques used in the semiconductor industry, so the patches are easily scalable and manufacturable. The device company mc10, which Rogers co-founded, already is working to commercialize certain versions of the technology.

Next, the researchers are working to integrate the various devices mounted on the platform so that they work together as a system, rather than individually functioning devices, and to add wi-fi capability.

"The vision is to exploit these concepts in systems that have self-contained, integrated functionality, perhaps ultimately working in a therapeutic fashion with closed feedback control based on integrated sensors, in a coordinated manner with the body itself," Rogers said.


Provided by University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (news : web)

Thursday, August 4, 2011

Fan Gets Kobe’s Face Tattooed on His Leg

From: http://thehoopdoctors.com/

Ok, now I’m confused. Something very strange is going on in the world that I need help understanding. Apparently, it has become cool to get the face of complete strangers tattooed on your body. In the past handful of months, we saw someone get Dirk’s face on his butt, LeBron’s face (although it looks more like a drunk Jamal Mashburn) on his leg, and now Kobe Bryant.

But this isn’t just any tattoo of Kobe. This guy decided to get a mural on his leg, complete with a right hand and everything. And it’s very detailed, which makes me even more uneasy and confused. But aside from the obvious reasons which make this situation strange, the fact that this guy handed the tattoo artist a picture of a newly awaken Kobe baffles me too. It looks like Kobe is tired and just rolled out of bed. If he felt compelled to do something as ridiculous as this, wasn’t there a picture available of Kobe where he looks more awake that he could’ve used? But if there’s one good thing to take away from all of this, it helps in proving the resurgence of the NBA’s popularity. I’m reaching, I know.


Monday, July 11, 2011

18 Sexy Disney Tattoos [Photos]


Spicy Canadian Shenae Grimes played Darcy Edwards on "Degrassi: The Next Generation" and now plays Annie Wilson in "90210." As for her role in real life, that seems to be the bearer of confusing tattoos. First, she appeared with a black heart on her cheek, which, thankfully, it turned out to be a temporary. Now she's gone and put a tattoo of Peter Pan's cap behind her ear. Why? She wrote on her website that the reasoning is too personal to share. Fine, leave us in the dark. We'll just go stare at other women who did their Disney tattoos correctly and made them sexy, à la Janet Jackson. She has a tattoo of Mickey and Minnie doing it under her pants.


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Thursday, June 30, 2011

Hardcore Fangirl gets the most badass Star Wars tattoo ever

From: http://furiousfanboys.com/

You thought you were a hardcore Star Wars fan right? I’d like you to meet Lisa. Lisa is from Vancouver, Canada were she’s obviously become very powerful in the Dark Side. Being clever by making “aboot” or “Eh” jokes is bound to end in a crushed jugular (just letting you know). Also, she’d like me to point out that she got her ink done by Mitch Kirilo at gastowntattoo.com.

Tuesday, June 14, 2011

Talking traditional Samoan tattooing

vbs.tv — Sulu'ape Steve Looney comes to the great tradition of tattooing through his teacher, Suluape Petelo, a descendant of one of the original families tattooing in Samoa.



There are a couple of ways you can look at traditional tattooing. If you’re Japanese, you might think of the large koi fish or dragons that typically adorn the bodies of your local crime syndicate. Or you could imagine the tats seen on sailors in old cartoons, where most of the images comprise of ships, anchors, and sea faring motifs. But the most traditional might actually be the black Polynesian patterned work from the Samoan and Marquesan Islands. Besides pre-dating both American and Japanese traditional-style work, the word tattoo itself comes from the Polynesian word “tatau”. Suluape Steve Looney comes from the great tradition of Samoan tattooing through his teacher, Suluape Petelo, who can trace his ancestry back to one of the original families tattooing in Samoa. Although Steve uses tattoo machines, as opposed to traditional hand tools, he still has the knowledge and reverence that make him an excellent person to talk to about the subject of Samoan style tattoos.

Friday, June 10, 2011

Woman gets 152 Facebook friends tattooed on herself

By Ysolt Usigan
From: http://www.cbsnews.com/



(CBS) - This woman gives Facebook friendships a whole new meaning - the permanent kind that you can't delete because someone's constant, stupid status updates are annoying you.

She gets her 152 friends' Facebook default profile pics inked on her arm.

"After months of work I want to show you all my social Tattoo. Pretty amazing right?" says YouTube user susyj87. "I'm really proud of it. Hope you like it too!"

We do! The idea is really cool. Just one question: What happens if someone unfriends you?

Tuesday, February 22, 2011

Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right




This has to be the greatest Gaming Tattoo ever..

Tuesday, February 15, 2011

Surfing and tattoos, a ride culture lifestyle


The recently launched WSTRNCV Magazine concerns itself with "ride culture", featuring the best of "boards & wheels." They cover topics such as surfing, skateboarding , snowboarding, vintage motorcycles, custom cars and the music and art that immerses these cultures.

Included here is a selection of surf culture images from their launch issue. Also check their short video featuring the rather stunning Indonesian actress/designer Fahrani Empel.

WSTRNCV Magazine was kind enough to let us use their images and we thought we should share them with our readers as we think that not only is the imagery stunning but we get to experience a bit of a hidden lifestyle, as we are taken on a wild journey. Enjoy.

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Actress/designer/tatoo artist Fahrani Empel
shot in Los Angeles. WSTRNCV Magazine photo:
©Kiino Villand.
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ASP world tour surfer Luke Stedman displaying his unique drop in technique. WSTRNCV Magazine photo: ©Nathan Smith
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Actress/designer/tatoo artist Fahrani Empel
shot in Los Angeles. WSTRNCV Magazine photo: ©Kiino Villand.
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Board shaper/wetsuit designer Jill Hansen
Shot in Hawaii. WSTRNCV Magazine photo: ©Imani Lanier
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North Sumatra, Front Side Air
WSTRNCV Magazine photo: ©Steven Brisick
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Actress/designer/tatoo artist Fahrani Empel
WSTRNCV Magazine photo: ©Kiino Villand.
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ASP world tour surfer Luke Stedman shot in Hawaii
WSTRNCV Magazine Photo: ©Imani Lanier
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ASP world tour surfer Luke Stedman shot in Hawaii
WSTRNCV Magazine Photo: ©Imani Lanier
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Board shaper/wetsuit designer Jill Hansen
Shot in Hawaii. WSTRNCV Magazine photo: ©Imani Lanier
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Actress/designer/tatoo artist Fahrani Empel

©Kiino Villand.
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Legendary pro skater Steve Olson riding to the beach
WSTRNCV Magazine photo: ©Mike Miller.
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ASP world tour surfer Luke Stedman shot in Hawaii
WSTRNCV Magazine Photo: ©Imani Lanier
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Photographer/director/surfer Steven Lippman
shot in Malibu. WSTRNCV Magazine photo: ©Kiino Villand

Monday, June 7, 2010

‘Tattoo’ may help diabetics track their blood sugar

Carbon nanotubes could be injected under the skin to measure blood glucose levels
written by: Anne Trafton, MIT News Office
contact: Jen Hirsch - MIT News Office
email: jfhirsch@mit.edu
From: http://web.mit.edu/

A 3-D rendering of a glucose molecule.

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — Paul Barone, a postdoctoral researcher in MIT Department of Chemical Engineering, and professor Michael Strano are working on a new type of blood glucose monitor that could not only eliminate the need for finger pricks but also offer more accurate readings.

“Diabetes is an enormous problem, global in scope, and despite decades of engineering advances, our ability to accurately measure glucose in the human body still remains quite primitive,” says Strano, the Charles and Hilda Roddey Associate Professor of Chemical Engineering. “It is a life-and-death issue for a growing number of people.”

Strano and Barone’s sensing system consists of a “tattoo” of nanoparticles designed to detect glucose, injected below the skin. A device similar to a wristwatch would be worn over the tattoo, displaying the patient’s glucose levels.

A 2008 study in the New England Journal of Medicine showed that continuous monitoring helped adult type I diabetes patients who were at least 25 years old better control their blood glucose levels. However, existing wearable devices are not as accurate as the finger-prick test and have to be recalibrated once or twice a day — a process that still involves pricking the finger.

“The most problematic consequences of diabetes result from relatively short excursions of a person’s blood sugar outside of the normal physiological range, following meals, for example,” says Strano. “If we can detect and prevent these excursions, we can go a long way toward reducing the devastating impact of this disease.”

Most existing continuous glucose sensors work via an injection of an enzyme called glucose oxidase, which breaks down glucose. An electrode placed on the skin interacts with a by-product of that reaction, hydrogen peroxide, allowing glucose levels to be indirectly measured. However, none of those sensors have been approved for use longer than seven days at a time.

The technology behind the MIT sensor, described most recently in a December 2009 issue of ACS Nano, is fundamentally different from existing sensors, says Strano. The sensor is based on carbon nanotubes wrapped in a polymer that is sensitive to glucose concentrations. When this sensor encounters glucose, the nanotubes fluoresce, which can be detected by shining near-infrared light on them. Measuring the amount of fluorescence reveals the concentration of glucose.

The researchers plan to create an “ink” of these nanoparticles suspended in a saline solution that could be injected under the skin like a tattoo. The “tattoo” would last for a specified length of time, probably six months, before needing to be refreshed.

To get glucose readings, the patient would wear a monitor that shines near-infrared light on the tattoo and detects the resulting fluorescence. One advantage of this type of sensor is that, unlike some fluorescent molecules, carbon nanotubes aren’t destroyed by light exposure. “You can shine the light as long as you want, and the intensity won’t change,” says Barone. Because of this, the sensor can give continuous readings.

Development of the nanoparticles and the wearable monitor is being funded by MIT’s Deshpande Center for Technological Innovation.

Barone and Strano are now working to improve the accuracy of their sensor. Any glucose monitor must pass a test known as the Clarke Error Grid, the gold standard for glucose-sensor accuracy. The test, which compares sensor results to results from a lab-based glucose meter, needs to be very stringent, since mistakes in glucose detection can be fatal.

They are still years away from human trials, says Barone, but they may soon start trials in animals. Those tests will be key to determining the value of this approach, says Buckingham. “You don’t know how good it will be until you put it in someone and see how strong the signal is,” he says.

Wednesday, March 10, 2010

A gallery of the worst tattoos EVER.

ktla.com The first thing that comes to mind is absolute stupidity.

Click here for the full gallery of 76 Total Failed attempts of artwork: A gallery of the worst tattoos EVER.

Thursday, February 25, 2010

Alice In Wonderland: A Tattoo Story

By FrankSh

Undoubtedly with the new major motion picture due out in the near future, there will no doubt be some fair weather Alice in Wonderland fans coming out of the woodwork to profess their love for all that is Alice (and Johnny Depp, as the case may be). With that in mind, I’d just like to let everyone know that you’re not a real fan unless you have just about the entire Alice in Wonderland story inked into the upper half of your body.

alice in wonderland tattoo back

There were a few things that ran through my mind when I first saw this picture. My first thought was that’s totally awesome, the second was wow that had to hurt like hell but it would have to be a great conversation starter, and finally I thought that I really hope this person trusts whoever does their tattoos. If you’re a long time reader here are Walyou, you’ve seen some pretty rad tattoo displays like the cool Tetris tattoo and of course the Pacman tattoo, but this one has to take the cake. I think given the choice between these I’d have to go with Tetris…but I guess I’m not hardcore enough to be a Disney fan if this is any indication.

Now aside from the obvious practical issues, you have to admit this is pretty cool. All of your favorite characters from the animated movie are here, including the Mad Hatter, Chershire Cat, and of course some of the card soldiers. I’d like to see a view from the front as well, but I’m not sure how much you could see without venturing into the land of inappropriate.

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One has to wonder if we won’t see similar tattoos when the live action version of the story comes out. Personally I think having Johnny Depp staring at me for the rest of forever would be pretty creepy, but I’d be willing to bet there are some ladies out there who would disagree. Of course you might run into some copyright issues there…and getting a tattoo of that magnitude removed would take some serious pain and money!

Tattoo Artist: Holly Azzara Via: Rainbow Zombies Ate My Unicorn

Wednesday, February 10, 2010

13 Incredibly WTF Body Modifications

by: Tim
from: http://www.popcrunch.com/

Again and again, human beings have shown off their willingness to pierce, poke and alter every facet of their bodies. Currently, tattoos and certain piercings are seen as utterly socially acceptable, and no-one blinks twice if your barista has 8 earrings and full sleeve tattoos. But some people take it to the next level, with bodymods that stretch belief and might fire up your gag reflex. Here are 13 of the craziest body mods (which don’t involve genitalia, because that would just be too easy).

13. Black Light Tattoo


So what do you do if you want a tattoo but you don’t want it to be highly visible? If you’re a normal person, you get it put somewhere discreet, and it’s not an issue. If you’re someone who tends to hang around places where the music repetitively goes oons-oons-oons, and look fondly back on the 90s, then you get a black light tattoo. Much as the name suggests, black light tattoos only show up under black light, meaning they look like a very faint scar most of the time. However, once you get into the club with the rest of your raver friends, the ink glows. It’s a cool effect, but I wonder if the glow degrades over time.

12. Corset Piercing


This bodymod is high on the list because, well, because it’s actually kinda hot. Two rows of piercings run down the back, and then a piece of ribbon is threaded through them. This duplicates the look of the ties on a corset, which has definite aesthetic appeal. Which is doubtless boosted by its usual appearance on the backs of young, attractive women. The downside? Whenever I see one, I just get a horrible mental image of someone ripping the whole thing out.

11. Implanted Magnets


Another one that’s kinda cool. Implanting magnets under your skin, which not only lets you pick up metal objects, but gives you a minor 6th sense. Reportedly, once you’ve implanted the small and powerful objects, you can detect live wires, feel your hard drive spin up, or sense security systems. The magnets are implanted into your fingertip, and when you cross a magnetic field they oscillate slightly, creating a buzzing sensation. As far as bodymods go, it’s a fair bit more practical than most. The downside? The silicon sleeve used to separate your body from the magnet has a tendency to rupture, which leads to the magnet breaking down.

10. The Giant Labret


The labret is a fairly common piercing, one which is beneath your lower lip, and is often seen as a stud or spike. It’s remarkably common, and you probably know someone who has one. So what happens when someone does to the labret piercing as they do to their ears, and start to stretch the hole. And, after it gets big enough, they stick a clear plastic plug in it. You get an unparalleled look at the persons gumline, and I’m sure more than just a couple of really, really odd glances. Looking at that, and seeing how much it alters the shape of the lower lip, you have to wonder if it makes eating difficult.

9. Microdermal Implants



So you want a piece of metal sticking straight out of your body? But you don’t want to shove a piece of metal deep into your muscle structure? Well, lucky for you, there’s a middle-ground. A microdermal implant sticks a small L-shaped bracket into your skin, which leaves just a tiny stud of metal protruding. With this hook, you can stick on all types of studs, jewels, and various spikey shaped things. As far as implants go, it’s relatively non-invasive, and won’t go too deep. You’re still sticking hooks under your skin though.

8. Ear Spiking


There are only two types of people who would get their ears modified to look like this: hardcore fantasy fans, or hardcore Star Trek fans. Neither of whom are usually the primary demographic for extensive body modification, especially ones that involve removing large chunks of flesh. But I’m not one to judge. So if you’re of the type where you think your life would be immeasurably improved by having ears that come to a sharp point, then maybe this is for you. So how is this achieved? Well, you take your ear, carve a wedge of flesh and cartilage out of it and then strap it back together. You keep it bandaged that way for some time, until it heals enough that it won’t rip itself to shreds as soon it becomes unstrapped. Then you have a spiky set of ears!

7. Scarification



Scarification scares me more than almost anything else, but mostly because I find the results oddly attractive. What happens with this procedure, is that you peel off large sections of someone skin in a specific pattern, revealing the tissue beneath. Once this area heals, it will cover with scar tissue, which will be a different color and texture from the surrounding skin. As crazy and gruesome as this is, some people take it a step further, and deliberately aggravate the wound, preventing it from healing normally. This causes greater swelling in the scar tissue, and creates more defined results. The whole process is extremely bloody, and looks more painful than I care to fathom. But I kinda think it looks hot.

6. Saline Inflation


So you want giant lumpy bits added to your body, but don’t want them to be permanent? You still want to look like you got stung by some sort of mutant bee, and have swelling that would make any sane doctor run in terror? Well, how about injecting large amounts of saline solution into your face, and then making divots with your thumb on it? All the cool Japanese are doing it! Now, I would like to digress here for a second, and mention that there’s an entire group of people who like doing this exact same thing, but to their testicles. Seeing as we’re trying to keep this list at least vaguely PG-13, we won’t show any of the images, but it’s pretty horrific. At least saline inflations disappear after a while…

5. Subdermal Implants


But subdermal implants are here to stay! A subdermal implant involves inserting a large object under the skin, and then leaving it to heal. The shape of implant then shows through the skin, creating a raised and slightly terrifying resulting effect. It’s not often in life you’ll run into someone with devil horns or detailed beaded patterns protruding under their skin, and it’s certainly a dramatic look. Subdermal implants are still rare enough that you’ll probably face a fair amount of social ostracization because of it, but hey, what price is art?


4. Suspension


Suspension isn’t so much a single modification, as a religious experience associated with the bodymod world. People who are into suspension literally hang themselves off hooks, usually through the skin of their back. The hooks are inserted just prior to the act itself, meaning the piercings are always fresh, and the person is hoisted up. The hooks must be carefully placed, taking into account the weight of the subject, and their skin’s strength, because if there aren’t a sufficient number of the piercings, then the skin won’t take the weight, and will rip out.
Suspension is never undertaken with anesthesia, as the practitioners feel this would diminish the importance of the act. It’s an intensely spiritual performance for most people, who see it as a form of meditation. Me, I’m just terrified of the whole concept!

3. Split Tongue


You know how snakes have split tongues. Do you want one? Do you yearn with the desire to separately control the left and right halves of your tongue? To slither them around various objects, and creep people out? To give the heebie-jeebies to the general populace? All you have to do is split your tongue down the middle—known as bifurcation—and then stitch it up again to let it heal. In doing so, you’ll get the tool you’ve always wanted to strike fear into the hearts of children.

2. Burning


So, remember when I talked about how scarification could have visually impressive results? Well, what happens when you take that process, remove any chance of it looking good, and add an even stronger undercurrent of self harm? Welcome to the world of self-inflicted burn wounds. The image above was done by cigarette. Slowly. And repeatedly. Over the course of a long, long time. That’s right, it says “love hurts”. And it’s almost entirely illegible. That’s just screwed up.

1. Eye Tattoos


AAAHH! AAAAH! AAAAAAAH! WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT! Holy crap, that’s just screwed up! That’s right, these folks are getting tattoo ink injected into their eyeballs, effectively dying it blue. There is only one situation where I want to see someone with all-blue eyes, and that’s if they’re Fremen. Apparently getting the ink shoved into your eyeball is relatively painless, but I don’t care. That’s just weird, creepy, nasty and all around unpleasant. Some people can’t stand the idea of having anything near their eyes. Think about them, not look at that needle. Hell, I went through LASIK surgery, I’ve had weird things done to my orbs. But this? This is just gross.